>> america would like to believe that the question of color is not an issue and that racism is dead. and i, i think there's other ways besides talk about it on your program. we are going to have to do to have people recognize. until we recognize the depth of racism in this country, we have to have the problem. you have to look at it and you have to deal with it. but, as becoming a senator, white or black, it is so difficult. with you throw that race into it, you can almost make it impossible. first of all, you have to wait 6, 12, 18 years for a vacancy. and if the spouse happens to be attractive and there's an early death or something, the way things are changing and because of the cost of being elected, spouses somehow can get appointed. once you're appointed, that's 50% of the problem, getting re-elected. the other thing is the costs of running. it is now pretty well accepted that you have to start off being a millionaire. no matter how much of trying to avoid the impetment of color and becoming a millionaire, i think statistics would show that black folks have just not been able t